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 [Ce message a été édité par son auteur pour la dernière fois le 30 novembre 2009 à 17:23] La grandeur de l'homme est sa force de conviction qui lui permet de soulever des montagnes alors qu'il occupe une infime place dans l'univers ! |
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Bueno Dias! Ye m'appelle Inigo Montoya. Tou a toué mon père. Prépare toua à mourir! |
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Threemansking
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Anatheme a dit : ça peut tout simplement être un symbole de paix et d'harmonie Je pense ainsi également Attention, cette signatrue n'est pas une signatrue sur le cyclimse, merci de votre compréhension. |
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incident symbolizes humans re-embracing nature. Perhaps they won't go with humans dying out after all, as Kitase indicated may happen during an interview with Electronic Gaming Monthly in October, 2005. Analysis: Here, we're basically told what we already knew from the game: that someone who participated in the Study of Planet Life in Cosmo Canyon founded AVALANCHE. Barret mentions that AVALANCHE was founded in Cosmo Canyon during the party's stop there, but what wasn't made explicitly clear to many players of the English localization, however, is that Barret was not the founder of AVALANCHE and was not its original leader. In fact, Barret was not even a member of the original AVALANCHE. In Before Crisis: Final Fantasy VII, events dating back six years feature the first public appearance of AVALANCHE, with their leadership consisting of three people: Shears, a field commander, Fuhito, a research commander who had more authority than Shears, and Elfe, a young woman who supposedly served as the group's overall leader. In truth, Fuhito was using her and was the one who had obssessively dedicated himself to the Planet after researching the Study of Planet Life; he had a complete disregard for the lives of human beings, and -- being utterly dedicated to the Planet -- wished to use a powerful summon called "Zirconiade" to eradicate all living things on the surface of the Planet so that it could have back all of its Spirit Energy, while simultaneously being free of all native threats.] ***Enigma of the voice*** (Page 68) As Cloud is trying to place the bomb, a mysterious voice speaks to him. Later, this same kind of mysterious voice resounds in Cloud's head in the scene where he and a voice have a conversation, and it offers him reminders. These voices are the original Cloud, as -- due to Hojo's Sephiroth Clones experiment -- Zack's personality merged with his, creating the present day Cloud, producing a conflict of multiple personalities(-->P.11). During the scene in the first mako reactor, what [the voice] says is it [trying] to point [Cloud] toward the memory of Sephiroth five years ago in Nibelheim's mako reactor, as the two places were similar. However, Cloud is not able to listen to the words of the memory. (Accompanying screenshot caption) "Open your eyes!" [the voice] calls out, as it does when the scene at the Temple of the Ancients comes and the words of Sephiroth make use of Cloud as a puppet. ------------------------ [Analysis: This section confirms that the voice that often talks to Cloud during the first disc of the game is his subconscious, that part of him that was buried under the false identity he formed.] [Analysis: It seems to be hinting (if I translated it right) that Elena has seen Tseng, this being why she knows he got messed up and being why she's upset. By the very concept, it's suggesting that he survived what happened to him in the Temple of the Ancients. It's also notable that this original Japanese line said by Elena did not carry the finality that her line in the original English localization of FFVII did. There, she said "But you really got guts doin' my boss in like that!", making it appear that Tseng had died. Though the PC version's translation fixed this -- having Elena say that Tseng had been messed up instead of done in -- most English-speaking and reading players saw the version that suggested Tseng's death was a definite, leaving many perplexed when he returned in Advent Children. Anyway, the above translation of the line is the most literal rendering, but I think the English PC version's take on it was well done. Sadly, there's no explanation of how Tseng survived, though, presumably, Elena went back into the temple after AVALANCHE had gone in and found Tseng as they had, rescuing him.] ***Jenova-SYNTHESIS*** (Page 204) The forms of Jenova that have been fought up to this point (BIRTH, LIFE, DEATH) were parts of the body which escaped from the Shin-Ra building. In regard to Jenova-SYNTHESIS, this form that was arranged to be fought inside the Planet, it is the head of Jenova that Sephiroth had in hand five years ago and the other parts Shin-Ra had, their Reunion complete. As such, its appearance differs from the previous forms: the image of this form's upper body has become strong, it being the closest to perfection. ------------------------ [Analysis: This section tells us that Jenova-SYNTHESIS is the combination of Jenova's main body and its head. It's also implied -- since Sephiroth killed all the Sephiroth Clones but Cloud and sent them down into the Northern Crater -- that the cells Hojo injected into the Sephiroth Clones are part of this merged form of Jenova.] (Accompanying screenshot caption 2) The main body of Jenova began migrating from the Shin-Ra headquarters because of the Reunion. The Jenova cells in Cloud received the call of the Reunion the same as those of the mimiced form. Hojo expected the headless main body to be the focal point for the Reunion once it began, but in reality, it was the Northern Crater. The head of Jenova from the Mt. Nibel mako reactor -- which fell into the hands of Sephiroth -- had an influence on the focal point of the Reunion. This section also brings up the matter of the failure of the project, who -- despite popular misinterpretation -- was not Cloud, but was Zack; he didn't suffer the ill effects of the experiment, which allowed him to break himself and Cloud out of the Shinra Mansion before Cloud be given a number. Of course, there's more on that to come in the next section, so I'll stop here.] [Analysis: As mentioned in the previous analysis section, Cloud was a successful Sephiroth Clone, having the exact results Hojo had hoped for; he wasn't the failure at all, and instead, Zack -- who freed Cloud before he could get a number -- was. Zack could handle the SOLDIER/Sephiroth Clone treatments just fine, and this made him a failure for the purposes of Hojo's experiment.
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 Sinon, je viens de me rendre compte grâce à toi de l'intérêt d'envoyer tous les clones vers le cratère nord Attention, cette signatrue n'est pas une signatrue sur le cyclimse, merci de votre compréhension. |
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Pour ceux qui ne déchiffrent pas l'anglais : Lorsque Sephiroth est mort, il a emporté avec lui la tête de Jénova. Hojo a ensuite emporté le corps en espérant être spectateur de la Réunion des cellules de Jénova, croyant que le corps serait le point de convergence de toutes les cellules de Jénova, donc de tous les Clones. Mais à vrai dire, les Clones se dirigeaient tous vers la tête de Jénova, y compris le corps sous l'apparence de Sephiroth. Au Cratère Nord donc, puisque c'est ici que s'est retrouvé Sephiroth après être tombé dans la Mako. Et comme la tête était avec Sephiroth, Sephiroth était déjà à la destination finale. Ce n'est pas vraiment Sephiroth la destination, en bref. La Reunion a vraiment lieu en fin de compte, et le résultat de tout cela est Jénova SYNTHESE, qui a effectivement récupéré sa tête au combat final et se distingue de ses autres formes dû au fait qu'elle ait été reconstituée.
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Au sens propre du terme.... [Ce message a été édité par son auteur pour la dernière fois le 30 novembre 2009 à 17:40] Bueno Dias! Ye m'appelle Inigo Montoya. Tou a toué mon père. Prépare toua à mourir! |
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Attention, cette signatrue n'est pas une signatrue sur le cyclimse, merci de votre compréhension. |
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Acro a dit : Oui c'est ma grande découverte du jour et franchement c'est super, je viens de comprendre tout d'uncoup (enfin tout ce que dit Hojo au Labyrinthe Tornade). Je m'étais longtemps posé la question de l'importance de la tête de Jénova dans le jeu. Pour ceux qui ne déchiffrent pas l'anglais : Lorsque Sephiroth est mort, il a emporté avec lui la tête de Jénova. Hojo a ensuite emporté le corps en espérant être spectateur de la Réunion des cellules de Jénova, croyant que le corps serait le point de convergence de toutes les cellules de Jénova, donc de tous les Clones. Mais à vrai dire, les Clones se dirigeaient tous vers la tête de Jénova, y compris le corps sous l'apparence de Sephiroth. Au Cratère Nord donc, puisque c'est ici que s'est retrouvé Sephiroth après être tombé dans la Mako. Et comme la tête était avec Sephiroth, Sephiroth était déjà à la destination finale. Ce n'est pas vraiment Sephiroth la destination, en bref. La Reunion a vraiment lieu en fin de compte, et le résultat de tout cela est Jénova SYNTHESE, qui a effectivement récupéré sa tête au combat final et se distingue de ses autres formes dû au fait qu'elle ait été reconstituée. Merci pour la trad ^^
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La grandeur de l'homme est sa force de conviction qui lui permet de soulever des montagnes alors qu'il occupe une infime place dans l'univers ! |
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Rand a dit : Cloud aurait du faire partie de la Réunion  Il en fait partie, à vrai dire.Pour ta question Kart, je n'ai pas trouvé de réponse mais je pense que ce sont les enfants de Nanaki ? :l
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